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tabtitle: Stoicismv1
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title: Stoicismv1
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<article>
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<h1>Stoicismv1</h1>
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<p>Sherman J. Clark wrote a fantastic article on the Stoicism Today blog in
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December which really spoke to me. It approached some of the questions and
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problems I've had with Stoicism in an elegant and enlightening way, which
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has led to my significantly greater understanding of Stoicism (albeit, my
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flavor of Stoicism). Notably, and what I want to highlight here, were the
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topics of <i>Selfishness</i>, <i>Metaphysics</i>, and <i>Balance</i>.</p>
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<h2>Selfishness</h2>
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<p>I have a difficult time with the idea of a universal brotherhood. Most
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of this is literally my problem: I cannot properly picture it, nor
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understand how to approach or pursue it. When Stoicism speaks of the
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importance of community or of a universal brotherhood, I generally switch
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off. Appropriately, I have a difficult time understanding how Stoic pursuit
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is anything but selfish. Everything I pursue, everything I read and try to
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apply, seems to benefit solely me. There is an argument to be made that by
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bettering myself I better others around me, but that's not fulfilling.
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Clark specifically cites this issue towards the end of his article: "I do
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not believe it possible to find within stoicism any principle that
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definitively rules out selfishness or guarantees other-regarding behavior."
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My thoughts exactly. However, like much in Stoicism and life in general,
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the answers are rarely written down, and must be discovered. Building on
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this, Clark proposes that the impetus for selflessness, or at least
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community, comes from the simple fact that learning is best done
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communally. Learning and growing in isolation does not present the most
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complete understanding of anything. And as I'll point out further down,
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learning is actually quite important!</p>
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<h2>Metaphysics</h2>
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<h2>Balance</h2>
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<p> By balance, I mean the balance of stoic thought managing emotions. It
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is common for Stoic teaching to be applied to negative emotions and
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situations. Many blogs, books, and classes focus on applying a Stoic
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mindset to stress, anxiety, depression, and the unfavorable situations that
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cause those and other similar types of emotions to arise. Clark is
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quick to propose a more important question: what happens when this approach
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is fully applied? What happens when a full pursuit of Stoicism is taken
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seriously? I appreciate Clark's use of the word "serious" when he speaks of
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this pursuit. It implies to me that half-way applying Stoic thought is an
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immature pursuit. That is to say, similar to an immature fruit tree, you
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have only part of the system available to you. This is often how I've felt.
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I know and understand the power of applying Stoic thought to difficult
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situations. I want to know, as Clark puts it, if there is any room left for
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joy after we've fully applied the Stoic philosophy.</p>
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<p><i>"it is neither appealing nor intellectually honest to take comfort
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from a philosophy that works only if you do not think about it too
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carefully"</i></p>
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<p>Clark investigates 5 possible answers to this dilemma, none of which
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fully answer our question. However, he does propose a solution, and it is a
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solution which resonates with me deeply: "true stoic joy comes through
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comprehension, understanding, and insight." When I read this conclusion, it
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was literally enlightening. Suddenly, all the frustration and concern that
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I was abusing Stoic thought just for temporary solace, was lifted from me.
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I felt relieved, joyful, and even a sense of success. <p>
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<br /><h4>[Bill Niblock][2016-01-29][Philosophy]</h4>
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</article>
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Source:
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https://blogs.exeter.ac.uk/stoicismtoday/2015/12/19/how-now-horatio-the-stoic-joy-of-physics-and-friendship-by-sherman-j-clark/
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- Selfish vs community
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- Nature
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- nature is the universe
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- we should live in accordance with nature. what does that mean?
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- best way is to constantly seek to understand nature
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- Positive and negative emotions
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- Easy to apply stoic practices to negative emotions
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- What happens when applied to positive emotions?
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- "it is neither appealing nor intellectually honest to take comfort from a
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philosophy that works only if you do not think about it too carefully"
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- I like how a full pursuit of Stoicism is often classified by Clark as
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"serious" pursuit. Several implications; importance of the word.
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